10 Class WED FEB 24

Wake Up

What does music look like?

Stravinsky

Housekeeping

  • Linking to sources in your posts
  • bit.ly for Shortening Links

BEFORE

http://mysite1.com/?epl=4donafvFK3fMXxZXMWQRQLodmPchoXCK5C7-kbBv_agkwlkJrZAoaSDVUlhqFmUqt0f8c2Q6jF6GO6DNMnbidqRsikriF-IEBEt5okmICLEB0FxP36GrsxoPGQ3SGBo1PVR7itDUA4CYmjypn5gi  

AFTER

https://bit.ly/34ewHkm

https://bit.ly/3kiISUZ


Lecture/Demo

EinsteinBobble


Definition/Categorical Unit

  • Your Professor’s Model Definition Essay
    • Attempts to answer the question, “Does polio belong to the category of eradicable diseases?”

Polio

  • Model Definition/Categorical Essay
    • The editors of the New York Times defines a crucial constitutional term: protected class that deserves heightened scrutiny.
    • Includes a brief In-Class Exercise

NYTDefEssay

33 Responses to 10 Class WED FEB 24

  1. carsonwentz1186 says:

    Distinction between If and Whether (Whether = Which)
    What does music LOOK like? (Almost like a Star Trek opening/closing credits)
    Watching music is very therapeutic depending on how you look at it
    Tighter deadlines now lead to a very easy and laid back end of semester (preferable for me)
    Opportunities to shorten links (Use bit.ly)
    Ant hypothesis (Counting steps and overshooting the distance)
    Your goal is to make sure readers understand and are following along with everything you say, almost like a bobblehead (Bobblehead Strategy)
    Bobblehead technique is simply educating someone on an issue and giving hypothetical situations to make it make sense to the audience (Natural Gas truck example: I was audience to Professor Hodges argument)
    Some topics are just too bold to try and sway people who oppose it in just 3,000 words
    The tone of how you propose things has a big effect on the effectiveness of your persuasion (Mandatory Therapy Example)
    You will ALWAYS have holdouts on every thesis or argument you present
    Professor’s Model Definition Essay example
    In class exercise: Is this what you thought a definition essay would look like? (Not exactly)
    Comparison to similar context is useful in definition essay to make your point

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    • davidbdale says:

      Good observations overall, Carson.
      When you say

      Bobblehead technique is simply educating someone on an issue and giving hypothetical situations to make it make sense to the audience

      I would counter

      Bobblehead technique is the art of earning credibility for our arguments by getting a series of early “Yes” responses.

      3/3

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  2. -The deadline for the first 1000 words of the white paper is now due next Monday, rather than this Wednesday
    -bitly.com is a free URL shortener
    -The trick to the bobblehead strategy is to get your audience to unwittingly start nodding in agreement to a series of small and innocuous-sounding premises until the habit of agreeing to your every premise leads to the big yes.
    -You should get your audience to agree to smaller claims before you bring up the big claim in order to avoid an angry mob in reaction to the shock of your words.

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  3. johnwick66 says:

    If/whether
    whether: if you eliminate all the other alternatives and your down to two(red or blue)
    if: if you are either one of them.
    white paper 1st draft: due two Mondays from today(3/8/21)

    white paper hyper links: use an URL shortner :use bit.ly to shorten links

    The bobblehead strategy: to get the little Einstein to keep urging you to continue, you can use it to get your audience to unwittingly start nodding in agreement to a series of small and innocuous-sounding premises until the habit of agreeing to your every premise leads to the big yes.
    Your going to lose people early if you can’t get them to nod small yeses. Don’t just outright stat it, get the reader to slowly say yes to smaller topics before presenting the full idea.

    Categorizing things by analogies is a good way for categorical essays

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  4. christianity19 says:

    2-24-21

    • If/Whether
      -1. We want to know if you’re red or blue
      -2. We want to know whether you’re red or blue
    • Looked at a YouTube video of what this song looks like?
    • bit.ly for shortening links for big links that we use in our research
    • Looking at a hypothesis about ants counting their steps and they can can judge distance like humans do
    • The bubblehead strategy is that you want to guide them to that ask and you make something crazy to some of your readers
    • All the youth should mandatory therapy from a student from last semester is against our liberties and we only need therapy if we get something out of it
    • People who is a threat to humans or other people around them deserve to get therapy because they may be in need of it
    • Looked over a model of the definition/categorical essay and did a little in class exercise
    • Definition essay that two aren’t in the same category and the red text is the main idea of the paragraph
    • Professor read over the main ideas in red text in the modeled essay

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  5. rowanrat says:

    -Are you red or blue?
    -have to eliminate red or blue
    -all other colors are fine, red or blue will be eliminated
    -are you either of those?
    -watched a video with sound waves
    -changed the due date for our 5 sources
    -3.ly-free
    -what evidence did scientists use to create the theory that THATS how ants get home?
    -ants count their steps?
    -look for things people do that try to accomplish certain outcomes and unintended consequences
    -the bobble head strategy
    -make a controversial claim, counterintuitive thesis, something that sounds crazy
    -reluctance to changing our minds
    -therapies mandatory
    -who decides who needs this therapy
    -what kind of therapy
    -basic rights?
    -more of an extreme consequence will be more effective for your plans
    -start with general proposal
    -categories of youth that could benefit from therapy(those who don’t think they need it/think they need it but resist it)
    -depressed youth get therapy and benefit from it
    -no longer let them make the decision themselves
    -come up with controversial and unlikely hypothesis
    -Categorical essay-does x belong to the category of y
    -the red text is the main idea of that paragraph
    -1 paragraph for 1 idea
    -highlight main ideas in red and see if they match to the argument

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    • davidbdale says:

      I don’t understand how this helps you remember when to use whether and when to use if.
      -Are you red or blue?
      -have to eliminate red or blue
      -all other colors are fine, red or blue will be eliminated
      -are you either of those?

      Good Notes overall.
      3/3

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  6. compiistudent says:

    Notes 2/24
    Use WHETHER to specify which of something applies. Use IF if there are more than two options to be explored
    Listened to Stravinsky’s “Rite of Spring” while viewing its visual,,, correspondent? Useful to use URL shortener when attactching hyperlinks to documents. use Bit.ly to shorten links.
    The Bobblehead Strategy- Want someone to keep continuing and following you, so you have to keep making good points to keep the audience intruigued. But you also can’t overwhelm them by coming on too big too soon. Need to get small yesses, one after another. How to prevent mob mentality after asking too soon for total buy in? Need to get small yesses from everyone along the way. In ur own papers of 3,000 words, we should be able to highlight our main points and make them seem cohesive by themselves.

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  7. person345 says:

    If/Whether. We want to know if you are one of the other. Video showing what music looks like. Long hyperlinks are made during citations. Use Bitly, a link shortener to shrink extra-long hyperlinks. Ant hypothesis. Bobblehead Strategy. The goal is for the bobblehead to keep on nodding little yeses. The purpose is to get the audience of your paper to nod in agreement to small things in your paper. This ultimately leads the audience to a big yes at the end of your argument. The Mandatory Therapy Example is a big ask and receives a lot of rejections. There are many arguments against the mandate of therapy. To avoid “mob mentality”, use smaller arguments to get those little yeses from your audience to eventually get that big yes. Model definition essay on polio. Does x cause y? For a categorial essay, “Does polio belong to the category of eradicable diseases?” Definition essays don’t just define terms. They define something as an argument that can be in a certain category. Categorial essays argue that one thing may belong to a category. Definition/Categorial essay due Mon 3/8 (Sun 3/7 @ 11:59 PM)

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  8. justheretopass says:

    2/24/21
    We opened up class to talk about when to use ‘If/Whether”
    We want to know if you’re red or blue. We want to know whether you’re red or blue.
    “If” is asking if you’re either color (red or blue) we use “whether” when we want to know what color you are as a whole not just (red or blue)
    Then we talked about how to make our URL’s shorter and neater rather than having the whole URL.
    Lecture “Bobblehead Strategy”
    If you open up your idea early and keep sprinkling it everywhere you may be able to flip their mindset from no to yeah maybe
    The bobblehead strategy is to get your audience attention to start agreeing with you from a small yes to a convincing yes.
    Break down the big ask make a controversial claim
    You don’t want to take people out of their comfort zone to early
    How do we avoid the “mob mentality” if you ask to soon on a yes in your proposal
    Get your audience to agree with your smaller propositions so they start the yes. Let them buy in slowly

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    • davidbdale says:

      That’s good. Don’t take your readers out of their comfort zone too soon.
      How about this for an explanation of If/Whether?:

      We need to know if you’re red or blue.

      We have no idea what color you are, and we don’t much care, unless you’re red or blue. If that’s the case, we need to know if you’re “red or blue.”

      We need to know whether you’re red or blue.

      We know you’re either red or blue. We need to know which.
      3/3

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  9. mrmba1 says:

    2/24
    What does music look like?
    – It’s difficult to write what you can’t see/ don’t know
    Ants on Stilts Experiment:
    – If you get really involved in your subject, then a small change or piece of evidence can have more consequences than anticipated that can be followed
    The bobblehead strategy:
    – You want your audience to stay with you and to keep you talking, start with small yeses before the big yes
    – If evidence is deployed in smaller increments, you can get more people to agree with what you’re saying rather than throwing out all evidence at once.
    – Guide your audience to the “ask” or favor
    Categorical essays – does x belong to the category of y:
    – There are categories that may support your claim, but does your claim belong to those categories? (Affiliation through analogy)

    Side notes:
    – If or whether – if is either or, whether is one or the other
    – Use bit.ly to shorten URLs

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    • davidbdale says:

      Quoting you here:
      You: “What does music look like?
      – It’s difficult to write what you can’t see/ don’t know”
      Me: “I knew there was a lesson in that music demo, but I didn’t know what it was until you told me.” 🙂
      I also like this: “– If evidence is deployed in smaller increments, you can get more people to agree with what you’re saying rather than throwing out all evidence at once.”
      3/3

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  10. thecommoncase says:
    • use bit.ly to shorten URLs, especially if they cannot be hyperlinked !
    • thinking about the small details that could have drastic outcomes if changed is where the most interesting information is found
    • Bobblehead strategy: a technique for getting small agreements
      -multiple small agreements in your argument leads readers into agreeing with you
      -this can be used when you have a bold claim that you can’t say upfront, so you work your way up to it, you’ll likely be more successful
      -ask questions that you know your audience will agree with
      -work these smaller claims into the beginning of paper, and ease your way into the bolder claims
      -every time they agree you’re prepping them to say yes to your big question
      -this strategy can help stop mob mentality by persuading them to agree with the smaller claims
      -when you’ve laid out your case, hold a few things back to save for your closing to confirm your readers agreement
      -don’t take readers out of their comfort zone too early
      -using pathos could be an effective way to obtain small yeses
      -if a reader tries to back out of agreeing with your argument towards the end, break out the analogies

    -definition model seems to be arguing if polio should be defined as an eradicable disease (?)
    -red texts identifies main idea of the paragraph

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    • davidbdale says:

      I like all your Notes about the Bobblehead Strategy, but this one is the most charming:
      “-if a reader tries to back out of agreeing with your argument towards the end, break out the analogies”
      4/3

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  11. kobebryant32 says:

    Difference between whether or if.
    What does music look like?
    Professor talks about ant hypothesis
    What evidence did scientist use to guess the way ants walked back?
    Why would gluing stilts change the equation?
    When would they glue the stilts on?
    Bobblehead technique is how you get people on your team.
    Defined a categorical unit
    Does polio belong to the category of eradicable diseases.
    The bobblehead strategy is a way to persuade your audience into saying yes to your premise.
    Briefly read about categorical essay.
    Due Monday the 8th

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    • davidbdale says:

      I’m going to say the point of taking Notes is to answer the questions instead of asking them.
      “Difference between whether or if.
      What does music look like?
      Professor talks about ant hypothesis
      What evidence did scientist use to guess the way ants walked back?
      Why would gluing stilts change the equation?
      When would they glue the stilts on?”
      Do those Notes help you recall any important takeaways?
      2/3

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  12. honeysucklelilac says:

    still need to finish PTSD assignment, notes from 2/22 and white paper 1st draft by Sunday
    my Stone Money was posted on time but in canvas it says it’s missing and I haven’t gotten feedback
    Whiteboard
    -whether you’re red or blue used when you’ve eliminated all the other colors, which one you are
    Wake Up
    -what does music look like?
    Housekeeping
    -shorten your links in citation
    -url shortener (bit.ly)
    Top of the blog ant tweet
    -hypothesis- ants count their steps
    -what evidence did the scientists use that gave them the idea about ant behavior
    Lecture/Demo
    -The Bobblehead Strategy
    –what you want when you’re writing your essay
    –little yeses
    –the trick of the strategy is to get your audience to unwittingly start nodding in agreement to a series of small proposal claims
    –this leads to the ask at the end, you want to prime and prep your audience to say yes to your big ask
    –breakdown your thesis (the big ask), do not take people out of their comfort zone abruptly or too early
    –think of documentaries, they are just persuasive essays with visuals. They start with a big ask that is broken down and made more digestible
    –once you get general compliance, work in your more intense, possibly “outrageous” thesis
    –have arguments that can keep new converts from rescinding their approval for our fresh proposal
    Definition/Categorical Unit
    -attempts to answer the question, does x belong to the category of y? does x cause y?
    -does your solution belong to the same category that popular analogies belong to that people already widely agree with
    3/8 Definition/Categorical essay due
    Reminder: it will get easier with time, keep moving forward

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    • davidbdale says:

      Beautiful Notes.
      My favorite: “–have arguments that can keep new converts from rescinding their approval for our fresh proposal.”
      Re: Stone Money. You’re not likely to get Feedback until you ask for it. I don’t know what Canvas says or why you would think that your assignment is missing, but I have it and will grade it in its turn. I may also provide some feedback, but it’s not guaranteed unless you request it.
      4/3

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  13. Metro111c says:

    The IF/WHETHER
    We want to know if you’re red or blue.
    We want to know wether you’re red or blue. If your read or blue you’re in trouble.
    Youtube video on what music looks like visually
    Deadline for white paper is next monday.
    Learned how to shorten a URL with Bitly
    Ant conversation- how they get back to the nest
    Look for outcomes that don’t relate to your main topic
    The bobblehead strategy- if you get people to agree with small yeses then you’ll get what you want
    Once you get a simple this all sounds reasonable then you can say something that wouldn’t be as reasonable.
    An analogy can help break peoples resistance so people will agree with you.

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  14. imgoingswimming says:

    The warm-up today was looking at music in a physical form. When I look at it sounds like I can hear more in the music than if I was to just listen to it because I can see what is coming up.
    If/whether
    The example shows us that we use whether we are deciding which one of the two, but it asks if we are either of those.
    We should shorten our links with a URL shortener when posting on the blog.
    The bobblehead strategy is that we want the reader to continue saying yes and following along when we are writing. We can do this by deploying the evidence at the right time in tiny increments. We need to prep the reader before asking them to do something for us. Slowly entering a topic with ideas is much better than throwing it in the reader’s face right away as they may be cautious or even resist the idea.
    A definition essay is a categorical essay. “Does polio belong to the category of eradicable diseases?” Does x belong to y? We see in the definition essay we make connections between smallpox and polio in which one was eradicated and one needs to be. The essay also says polio is different because it is much harder to catch and treat. The red identifies the main idea of each paragraph.

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  15. rosekyd says:

    Although the music visualizer is nice, I’ve been doing music since the 5th grad so about 9 years at this point. One of the things that we learn to do off the bat is understand what the purpose of each instrument is just based off of reading their sheet music so we know who in the song has the important parts and what other parts are important to help make the melody even stronger. That’s just my point of view but the visualizer is good for the uneducated music enthusiast.
    Use bit.ly to make links shorter
    When using this bobble head theory it seems that to make your argument to seem like a legit claim it’s best to try not to through your entire hypothesis all out at once and then try to defend it the whole time because then as we learned from last class you get put on defense. Instead give smaller points to strengthen your argument to put yourself on offense the whole time to engage the reader as well as make them agree with the claims.
    When writing an essay you should have as many paragraphs as main ideas, and if a paragraph seems to have to strong ideas cut it in half and expand on both of them.

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    • davidbdale says:

      I didn’t necessarily make the connection myself between the Bobblehead Strategy and the avoidance of Rhetorical Questions, but you’re right. They both keep the writer on offense and make the reader play defense.
      4/3

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  16. icedcoffeeislife says:

    The class warmed up today and was about if/whether and where they should be used in a sentence. There were two examples on the board and we were talking about the difference between the two.
    Our first essay was pushed back a week, to give us more time to write it out.
    We looked at how to shorten a URL link. We are shown a website called Bitly, that we can use to shorten a URL for us.
    We talked about the bobblehead strategy, which is when you are making a claim and you want people to agree with your tropic. If you can talk to them their head should start shaking in agreement.
    With the bobblehead strategy, you have to be careful and not put too much pressure on the group you are talking to because you don’t want to scare them away.
    One of the useful techniques for this strategy would be to use an analogy.
    3/8 Definition/Categorical essay due
    Reminder: it will get easier with time, keep moving forward

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    • davidbdale says:

      The class warmed up today and was about if/whether and where they should be used in a sentence. There were two examples on the board and we were talking about the difference between the two.

      This is classic “Talked About” language, Iced. NOT ideal for Notes, which should consist of the CONCLUSIONS of the presentation, not a description of WHAT IT WAS ABOUT.

      If, instead of describing the if/whether setup, you had said:
      Use WHETHER when you want to know WHICH of TWO colors someone is.
      —We want to know WHETHER you’re red or blue. (We know you’re one or the other.)
      Use IF when you don’t care what color someone is, unless they’re red or blue.
      —We want to know IF you’re red or blue. (Otherwise we don’t care.)

      3/3 (for today, but be careful in future)

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